Vitamin D. What this commenter had to say and my response.

And how I think this mindset relates to socialism

Speaking in absolutes is a form of socialism.

I have seen many people talking in absolutes such as all supplements are harmful, everyone can get their nutrients from food alone, or even that we all need to eat a carnivore or vegan diet.

When anyone speaks in absolutes, saying that one thing is good for the masses, I think back to 2020, when everyone needed to wear a mask and stay 6 feet apart. In 2021, everyone must get the injection—no exceptions.

If you did not agree with all the destruction from 2020 and beyond, then surely you can agree that we cannot make bold supplement and dietary statements that would apply to everyone.

Both sound like control and socialism to me.

This leads me to this commenter on a Vitamin D post. Usually, I would ignore it, but there were so many errors in her comments that I felt clarification was best if anyone read the comment section of that post.

What a reader had to say

From a recent reader comment to this post.

Honestly, I do not think the commenter even read the “easy to read” post.

It is interesting, but expected, that someone who sells a product is criticizing someone who can be objective because they don't sell the product. You have provided not a single bit of evidence to support your statements. In contrast, Agent131711 even provides the chemical profiles and every bit of evidence we need to research for ourselves.

So we can surmise that because you push supplements that you cannot be 100% objective. Because you provide not a single bit of evidence to support your statements, we can surmise .... well, I'll leave that up to readers who read Agent's great content to compare it to your self-serving drivel.

You need to show proof that any vitamin has ever been isolated from nature...any. You can't, therefore every supplementary Vitamin is synthetic. No matter how they are mixed together, the combination is synthetic and made by pharmaceuticals that profit from making us sick. And Agent proved they were made from industrial waste.

A true healer helps people find the foods they need to take in more of, or eliminate some nutrients, in order to balance their 'deficiencies' naturally and safely.

Nutrients works synergistically, thus supplementing one vitamin, even if you could isolate it from nature, which you can't, will throw all the others out of balance.

Summary: IF the supplement is not a pure, whole food, don't go near it. If a nutritionist/healer/doctor claims a supplement that is not a pure, whole food is healthy, run.

I can say all this because I have been 100% healthy for 7 decades, and even 30-year olds on their supplements and gym routines cannot keep up with me.

You owe Agent131711 an apology and the 2nd part of your article should do that.

My response

Hello Grace,

It sounds like you did not read my quick and easy-to-read post. Your comment on my post has incorrect assumptions. You state that I “push” supplements and am biased because of this. Since you do not know me or how I practice professionally, I want to enlighten you. I do use a supplement apothecary, and for my clients, I take quite a bit of time to find the right supplements for that individual free of charge. Sometimes, they need a product, and sometimes they do not, but I do not “push” supplements, which indicates someone is pushing something for profit, not for the best interest of the patient/client. I make a meager profit from supplements.

Furthermore, all my clients receive a discount, reducing any profit I may receive. Additionally, the research and time needed to find suitable products for each individual can take me an hour or more, for which they do not pay any fee. Additionally, I do not have any product affiliations.

In my post, my point was that some people need to take a vitamin D supplement. Kudos to you if you do not need one and can obtain all the D you require via the sun, but most people cannot do so for many health reasons.

Additionally, are you aware of all the medications that deplete vitamin D?

Rather than listing research article after article that supports vitamin D in supplement form for numerous health issues such as cancer and psoriasis to bone health and immune support, I suggest you look at the resource link at https://www.grassrootshealth.net. Another professional resource is Dr. Vazquez, who has extensively researched vitamin D.

Big Pharma was concerned back in 2009 regarding the use of vitamin D supplements and how it could hurt their income and profit. Imagine all the people who would take vitamin D and now reduce their risk of health issues such as AI, CA, and CVD. (https://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v20n02.shtml)

Why is the RDA for D so low? Is it so we can be dependent upon modern medicine? Why do we fear the sun and put on toxic sunscreen that can prevent D absorption? Why does modern medicine encourage very low TC levels when sufficient cholesterol is required to make vitamin D from the sun?

Thus, from my perspective, I have to ask why a non-health professional suggests to its readers that they should avoid vitamin D in supplement form at all costs. We should never speak in absolutes. Some people are going to need it; some are not.

Vasquez et al. (2004) state that D3 (cholecalciferol) is the D form produced in the skin and from our diet. Irradiated fungi produce D2 (ergocalciferol) as a precursor, which is less biologically active and more toxic than cholecalciferol; thus, cholecalciferol is the preferred form. (link to his paid courses where this information is retrieved from vhttps://inflammationmastery-com-ichnfm-org.dpdcart.com/?fbclid=IwY2xjawHmb2hleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHY3Bj8X9EhJN18CQCf7Y6kWAEUEwyMNZK0AvTKm85KnTENybLgNjsEU57g_aem_yvu9yWPWhwo1nDsZLQ7h9A).

To be clear, my argument was that some people would need to supplement with vitamin D. If they need it and cannot get it via sunlight, food, or special lights, they should look for a D3 supplement that does not contain a list of added ingredients. These products do exist.

Realize your comments about your health only apply to you and what has worked for you.

As a professional, I specialize in individualized health, meaning our needs differ.

Also, I owe the Agent substacker absolutely nothing. Since I cannot comment on his posts unless I pay him, I sent him a friendly email when he posted on vitamin D, to which I did not receive a reply. Also, my posts are free, take much time and effort to put together, and everyone can comment.

I then decided I needed to address her comments a bit more:

Grace, it sounds like you are getting confused about synthetic and processed. All supplements, even food-based ones like Standard Process, would be considered processed products. If you make homemade orange juice, you process the whole food and turn it into juice, so even freshly squeezed juice is processed. All supplements (food-based or not) require processing.

A synthetic supplement does not come from food. For instance, many vitamin D supplements are sourced from lanolin (sheep wool) or a culture base of Saccharomyces Cerevisiae or lichen. Lichen is harvested in the wild and is often over-harvested in an unsustainable way.

Therefore, a person can choose a vitamin D3 product from various sources. But ALL supplements are processed. Food-based brands such as Garden of Life, NOW, and Nordic Naturals are considered “natural,” many other brands not extracted from whole foods are considered synthetic. There are also some disadvantages to whole food supplements that may apply to some people. I suggest you read this post.

Grace, you stated that I did not provide any evidence proving synthetic supplements are safe and that the Agent substacker somehow proved that they are all made by pharmaceutical companies and are dangerous.

Please show me evidence that Big Pharma produces ALL supplements. Many are, but not all of them. If you have read any of my other posts, I mention companies that do not have big pharma ties, such as Standard Process, Euromedica, Xymogen, and the NOW brand, to name a few.

You also stated that the Agent post proved that synthetic supplements are dangerous. I have not returned to re-read the post, as I am already taking too much time to offer clarification. Still, if I recall correctly, he did not cite anything from the published literature that indicated synthetically made supplements are unsafe for human consumption. From memory, I believe he showed pictures of big piles of ingredients and people in protective gear, which does not prove that a supplement is dangerous. 

To determine this, we would need extensive population studies examining the intake of synthetic supplements for a specific duration. This would be difficult due to many other variables that must be addressed. If I missed something in his post, please redirect me to the studies he cited. From what I recall, he used scare tactics.

Which leads me to my next point.

To say that we do not need any supplements (and use scare tactics in the process) is a lot like (in my view) saying that we all need to wear a mask or take a C19 injection.

Those are all absolutes and guidelines for the masses, not for the individual.

Sounds a lot like socialism to me.

Some people can get all their nutrients from food, but many cannot. The needs of a person on active duty in our special forces have significantly different nutrient needs than the 85-year-old person who walks a mile per day. I cannot stress enough the importance of individualized nutrition!

Considering that our food contains fewer minerals than it once did for numerous reasons and the stressful lives many lead, so to say that no one should take a synthetic supplement is an ignorant, unprofessional, and harmful statement.

Ultimately, you need to do what is best for your health.

The power of UV rays

This short video discusses the benefits of UV rays and sunshine for our health and what blue light does to us. Regardless of the vitamin D discussion, the sun is powerful. It energizes us and improves our mood. Staring at a screen under fluorescent light is not healthy.

The doctor discusses options for not getting out in the sun, such as infrared sauna use and hot springs.

My psoriasis flared up after I moved.

Colorado is always sunny, and I took this for granted. As a runner, dog walker, and outdoor enthusiast, I get much of my vitamin D from the sun. I have written about my psoriasis before here and have had no issues in many years.

When I moved to Tennessee, I began running on heavily wooded trails that the sun would barely penetrate. Then came winter. I forgot what East Coast winters are like. Colorado may get colder, and we have snow, but we do not experience gray winters.

So, a few psoriasis spots started to show up in early November. I had to start supplementing again. Several weeks later, there was no sign of the psoriasis. Vitamin D is helpful for my AI condition because when I was a child, my psoriasis would go away in the summer as I spent my days in the sun. The AI condition returned during the gray and cold NE winters.

Harm versus Benefit

Any health professional will weigh the harm and benefit of a drug, supplement, surgery, or protocol.

In this case, when I do not have access to adequate sunlight, the risk of harm by taking a high-quality vitamin D3 synthetic supplement versus the consequences of not taking one does not compare to the dangers I could incur if I do not take the D3 supplement (psoriasis flare up, increased risk of depression, social isolation and increased suicide risk due psoriasis).

Therefore, claiming that supplements are dangerous for everyone is an inaccurate statement from someone who does not understand individualized health.

Watch below to understand the importance of maintaining adequate vitamin D levels. Dr. McCullough, MD, discussed the amount of vitamin D needed daily for optimal health, whether from the sun, supplementation, or phototherapy. He explained how vitamin D has been shown to control numerous AI conditions. The issue with some of the vitamin D research is that the doses used were too low to be effective.

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