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Dan...'s avatar

We consider ourselves to be “civilized” or at least “better” than others. How does it fare against real life?

There is a guy who has managed to create a service of much help to the public - actually, one of a kind, because no-one else is presenting free health-related education in such a unified and legible format. Unlike other websites of similar contents, Joseph Mercola adds interviews with many persons somewhat related to the subjects his articles are about, and he does it on a regular basis. As a result, we have views on our health provided from two angles as a minimum. Interestingly, in his interviews, Mercola largely keeps his views in the background, allowing his guests to speak as much as they can. Now, this is super valuable, because you get a strong second opinion, not moderated by “yes, but I think that…”.

As far as I know, Mercola’s service is not paid by taxpayers, subsidies, grants, special Congress laws and similar, so I highly respect his achievement. As a sidenote, at his age, he looks way healthier and his conversation capacity exceeds what most of our “leaders” or “entrepreneurs” present - which, in a sense, confirms that he does himself what he is advocating. Health-wise or medically-wise.

I have never been interested in his business or personal views, I don’t care about it. As long as he does not provide obvious false or misleading information, I am good with his service, and grateful for the presentation of his resources free of charge - where other hide behind paywalls. How he manages his business, it’s his and only his matter. Whether he wants to hire or fire somebody just like that, that’s none of our business. It’s amazing to me why this subject is being pushed to the front, like, somebody wants to be a censor deciding for you and me whether we should listen to Mercola?

Even if he consults somebody whom you or I would not go to, for whatever reasons, are we going to declare that we know better what an adult Joseph Mercola should do? Really? Because who are we? It looks as if a subtle ad hominem attack is being orchestrated - exactly the thing that the “Freedom” movement is so much against.

On a deeper level, that may look like an attempt to discredit any alternative medical modalities other than mainstream “official” medicine.

Have you verified the gossip about the psychic “help”? I haven’t found any alleged “discovered” materials, so please provide a link if you are aware of it - it might be interesting to read or listen to it.

By the way, we all live by what we “know” (although we have only read or heard a few words), what we are “certain” about (although we only have second-hand knowledge from books, tv, internet or the education system, which we never tried to verify ourselves), or what we consider to be “true” - only to discover after some time that we were lied to and we believed blindly what we were told, the most recent example being the “safe and effective” savior drug which we now know that it is neither safe, nor effective, and does more harm than the alleged illness itself. What is worse, then, being lied to by rational scientific experts and professionals or listening to psychic “speakers”?

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kobreeding's avatar

After all the covid censorship and coverups and outright lies from mainstream health authorities I pretty much don't trust any mainstream source for health or any political/government "news". I look at multiple avenues for information. Dr. Mercola has been somewhat wishy-washy on some topics and maybe talks excessively in some interviews, and gets into politics and outside of health too much for me, but I agree with Dan. Dr. Mercola gives other points of view and references for his articles and has been demonized by mainstream authorities. That alone is a big reason to believe him. Until you have evidence that his articles are no longer trustworthy, I will continue to support him.

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Karen Brennan, PhD's avatar

Thank you for that detailed commnet. I am in alignment with you. I have not been able to verify what was posted on Crawford's substack so I am wondering if anyone heard anything elsewhere? Either way, I will continue to read Mercola's post if they pertain to my area of interest and focus and will continue to cite him when I think appropriate.

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Michael Hall's avatar

I've been following Dr. Mercola since the late 1990's. Probably be dead by now without his information. Don't have a subscription so have to read his emails before the 2 day limit which I do.

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Dan...'s avatar

Same here. I also check the references to his articles - a great secondary source of info. Compiling these references takes a lot of effort alone: another reason to respect his work.

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Martinos Gryparis's avatar

plus the comments from a couple followers who give vast amounts of extra content, like Guillermou

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Rochelle Eisenberger's avatar

I did read that article by Mathew Crawford and I used to read Dr Mercola a lot. I stopped getting his emails because I tired of the fear based click bait message titles. When I am researching a topic I will search his archives. Dr Mercola has changed some of his views about diet recently that seemed odd to me, but I admit to not going down that rabbit hole. I didn't really understand Erin's post that his family was praying for him and she was too - are they not together any more? Very confusing.

As someone that was far too involved with New Age stuff for too long all I can say is, I learned to be wary of those people. Most of the advice I was given was incorrect (shocking).

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Karen Brennan, PhD's avatar

I am okay with him changing his views on health and nutrition. I have done so as well with the more I learn and it means he keeps an open-mind on the ever-changing world of health.

Crawford was the only place that I saw the information about Mercola so I am not sure how accurate any of it is.

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Rochelle Eisenberger's avatar

Changing views on health and nutrition is okay in my book too. I was vegan, vegetarian, and am now carnivore - I am not throwing stones. I just remember that it changed suddenly and it seemed odd to me.

Mathew's research is usually solid. I haven't looked into it, honestly, and didn't even know there was anything going on with his company. I might go check Erin's website and see if she has more information. Tessa Lena writes for his website and I haven't seen her mention anything, but I'm not a paying subscriber to her substack.

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Karen Brennan, PhD's avatar

If you find information about his health that may be impactful to what Mercola writes, posts and shares then please pass that on.

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Rochelle Eisenberger's avatar

I will.

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End tyranny's avatar

I stopped reading him for the same reason. I'm done with the fear porn. And his girlfriend is crazy. She went after me on Twitter because I posted a link under one of hers and she brought in her merry band of followers to disparage me. She accused me of sharing an affiliate link and trying to capitalize when it was only information I found elsewhere. She even came into another thread with different people.

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Karen Brennan, PhD's avatar

Wow, that's a shame to hear. I'm glad she isn't someone I follow in the health space.

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End tyranny's avatar

If I learned anything, it's that a lot of these people post with the intention of making money and if they think you're hurting their profit margin, they attack. It's a sad world because the reality is we should all be here to help each other. Money is necessary but really causes a lot of problems.

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Karen Brennan, PhD's avatar

There are many people that cannot handle someone challenging them, disagreeing or sharing different views. Doesn't matter what side of the fence you are on since 2020 since it happens on both sides. We should all help each other because in the end that's a big part of what life is about. And as the world declines even more in health, food, money and so forth…we are really going to need one another!

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End tyranny's avatar

Amen!!! I could not agree more!

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End tyranny's avatar

Erin is a nut bag.

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Karen Brennan, PhD's avatar

I honestly know nothing about Mercola’s GF.

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End tyranny's avatar

I wouldn't even comment if I didn't have the crazy experience I had with her on twitter. It was insane.

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Karen Brennan, PhD's avatar

Sorry you had such a bad experience with her.

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Rochelle Eisenberger's avatar

Don't know your context, but I might be too.

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Moralimp's avatar

Very smart of you to be wary of new age.

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Rochelle Eisenberger's avatar

Unfortunately, I wasn't wary. I was 'in it' for quite a while. There are some truths among the deception, but that's what hooks people in, right? The thing that woke me up was the deception of the last four years and all the new age people (especially the 'healers') that went right along with it. Made no sense to me.

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Moralimp's avatar

Yes I agree - and I too was into “it” - there are many deceivers.

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Martinos Gryparis's avatar

gossip is gossip. i find it dishonorable to judge anyone from gossip.

I follow mercola for 20 years. he is possibly the only health expert i know who changes his views according to new findings, without the big ego barrier.

the only thing i disagree with, is the way he presents info on Empire (wef, who, cabal etc.), as I believe an influencer should not scare people. And I have written to him about it.

And in recent years , he has multiplied his posts concerning emotional and spiritual aspect methods to approach well being.

So to me is is an open minded scientist, just not a perfect being, just like me and you. I respect him very much.

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Karen Brennan, PhD's avatar

I agree, he doesn't let ego get in that way and admits when new data suggests his previous recommendations may have been wrong.

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Bandit's avatar

I get Dr. Mercola's newsletter. (Not Substack) Most of the articles are from, up to, 10 years ago to fairly recently. They also include ads for his supplements. Nothing "different" so far.

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