Oh.my.bob. I was working on a comment (with hyperlinked references) on our carnivorous history; the myth of fiber; how it is changing the brains of people with depression, anxiety, dementia and Alzheimer's and it DISAPPEARED. I really hate it when that happens. I keep hoping it will magically reappear and it is not. If I have the chutzpah, I will try again tomorrow.
Also, although carnivore seems like a cult, it's a supportive and happy one. Some people eat nuts, some people eat fermented veg, and there are others that eat only meat, salt, and water.
Carnivore also seems to boost testosterone for males, increase fertility for females, and may be the best protection from the sun. Anecdotally, carnivores don't get sunburn. I would also guess that most of us don't wear sunglasses, which also helps in that area.
Oh, I know, that is frustrating. But if you are able to retrieve it, I would love to see the links to the studies and read them when I have a chance. My point in the article is that we are individuals and a carnivore diet may not be best for everyone. For instance, the Japanese, one of the healthiest cultures, have a diet consisting of fish, rice, whole soy and seaweeds. Some African cultures have a diet of mainly tubers and have the greatest microbiome diversity seen. So I would like to see longitudinal carnivore data. Also, when some people have improved health on the diet, since many food groups are removed, it becomes uncertain if it was one or more of the food groups that aggravated symptoms.
Also, you can find a lot of data to support a variety of diets such as the Mediterranean so it really boils down to the individual. Bottom line, we need to eat real food.
I'm working on it! The Mediterranean diet is also based on a faulty study - I'll link that too. When he was doing his research in Greece it was during Great Lent - Orthodox Greeks were fasting!
I also agree that no one diet is right for everyone, but as someone only eating whole foods for more than 30 years, I was still having symptoms off ill metabolic health. In a couple months I'm going to order some labs and see how it's going.
It’s frustrating when you eat a healthy diet and still issues are not fully resolved. But diet cannot fix everything, especially if an underlying problem needs a therapeutic approach such as gut issues, toxin/heavy metal overload, pathogens and so forth.
Anyone who trusts the FDA-approved dietary guidelines, (which is what controls the "nutritionist" profession) might as well go get a few more booster shots. There are two industries that control the FDA: (1) pharma, and (2) the agricultural industry.
The FDA lied to us for over half a century, telling us that cholesterol causes heart disease, but that seed oils were good for us. Anyone who trusts the old worn out lies about what makes up an optimal diet for humans (i.e., that our stomachs can function just like a cow's) is not really doing enough research.
Oh, and the "hype" is simply due to the fact carnivore diet is reversing SERIOUS and debilitating diseases. It saved me personally from a wheelchair. I would never consider living out the rest of my life in a wheelchair just so I could eat plants again. No thanks.
No, because I eat plants and meats, along with IF, work on our ranch, workout, plus run up hill in elevation 8-10 miles daily, plus my work as a nutritionist on a daily basis so I am pretty sure at 57 my diet is not hindering me.
Without the extra strain of plant toxins, the need for extra vitamin C drops dramatically in humans. And animal flesh has actually been used to cure scurvy - because it has more than adequate amounts of vitamin C for a body that's not constantly stressed trying to detox from plant toxins.
"You are unlikely to get scurvy on the carnivore diet. This is because due to the negligible amount of glucose intake on this diet, your vitamin C requirement will be low. Furthermore, animal-based foods, especially organ meats, have some vitamin C at a level that can be sufficient to meet the 10mg a day to prevent scurvy. Historical evidence also shows that meat-eaters don’t get scurvy."
Basically, the more glucose your diet provides, the more vitamin C you are using to deal with the glycation your body struggles with.
Oh.my.bob. I was working on a comment (with hyperlinked references) on our carnivorous history; the myth of fiber; how it is changing the brains of people with depression, anxiety, dementia and Alzheimer's and it DISAPPEARED. I really hate it when that happens. I keep hoping it will magically reappear and it is not. If I have the chutzpah, I will try again tomorrow.
Also, although carnivore seems like a cult, it's a supportive and happy one. Some people eat nuts, some people eat fermented veg, and there are others that eat only meat, salt, and water.
Carnivore also seems to boost testosterone for males, increase fertility for females, and may be the best protection from the sun. Anecdotally, carnivores don't get sunburn. I would also guess that most of us don't wear sunglasses, which also helps in that area.
Oh, I know, that is frustrating. But if you are able to retrieve it, I would love to see the links to the studies and read them when I have a chance. My point in the article is that we are individuals and a carnivore diet may not be best for everyone. For instance, the Japanese, one of the healthiest cultures, have a diet consisting of fish, rice, whole soy and seaweeds. Some African cultures have a diet of mainly tubers and have the greatest microbiome diversity seen. So I would like to see longitudinal carnivore data. Also, when some people have improved health on the diet, since many food groups are removed, it becomes uncertain if it was one or more of the food groups that aggravated symptoms.
Also, you can find a lot of data to support a variety of diets such as the Mediterranean so it really boils down to the individual. Bottom line, we need to eat real food.
I'm working on it! The Mediterranean diet is also based on a faulty study - I'll link that too. When he was doing his research in Greece it was during Great Lent - Orthodox Greeks were fasting!
I also agree that no one diet is right for everyone, but as someone only eating whole foods for more than 30 years, I was still having symptoms off ill metabolic health. In a couple months I'm going to order some labs and see how it's going.
It’s frustrating when you eat a healthy diet and still issues are not fully resolved. But diet cannot fix everything, especially if an underlying problem needs a therapeutic approach such as gut issues, toxin/heavy metal overload, pathogens and so forth.
Where is professor Bart Kay, Ken Berry and ole Dr Baker when you need them in comment sections like these
Anyone who trusts the FDA-approved dietary guidelines, (which is what controls the "nutritionist" profession) might as well go get a few more booster shots. There are two industries that control the FDA: (1) pharma, and (2) the agricultural industry.
The FDA lied to us for over half a century, telling us that cholesterol causes heart disease, but that seed oils were good for us. Anyone who trusts the old worn out lies about what makes up an optimal diet for humans (i.e., that our stomachs can function just like a cow's) is not really doing enough research.
Actually, that is incorrect. That is what guides the registered dietitians, not all nutritionist.
Oh, and the "hype" is simply due to the fact carnivore diet is reversing SERIOUS and debilitating diseases. It saved me personally from a wheelchair. I would never consider living out the rest of my life in a wheelchair just so I could eat plants again. No thanks.
Have you personally ever lived on animal flesh and fats for ANY lengthy of time?
I would have an easier time letting you tell me about the pros and cons if you had ever actually tried it yourself.
No, because I eat plants and meats, along with IF, work on our ranch, workout, plus run up hill in elevation 8-10 miles daily, plus my work as a nutritionist on a daily basis so I am pretty sure at 57 my diet is not hindering me.
I am happy to hear that you do eat meat. It's especially good for you.
Without the extra strain of plant toxins, the need for extra vitamin C drops dramatically in humans. And animal flesh has actually been used to cure scurvy - because it has more than adequate amounts of vitamin C for a body that's not constantly stressed trying to detox from plant toxins.
Can you share the animal sources for curing scurvy please. I’m curious and would like to read the data.
Here's one link I found swiftly: https://gizmodo.com/why-horse-meat-once-had-a-reputation-for-curing-scurvy-1711341132
And from: https://www.allthingscarnivore.com/can-you-get-scurvy-on-the-carnivore-diet/
QUOTE:
"You are unlikely to get scurvy on the carnivore diet. This is because due to the negligible amount of glucose intake on this diet, your vitamin C requirement will be low. Furthermore, animal-based foods, especially organ meats, have some vitamin C at a level that can be sufficient to meet the 10mg a day to prevent scurvy. Historical evidence also shows that meat-eaters don’t get scurvy."
Basically, the more glucose your diet provides, the more vitamin C you are using to deal with the glycation your body struggles with.